Each month I am looking at a different Family surname and straightening out my files and seeing what I know or don’t know for each family line. This month the dubious job is surveying the Heap files. It begins with my maternal grandmother (Ada Richmal Heap  b. 18 August 1888, Staten Island, New York, USA) and I have navigated my way back to my 4x great grandfather (Robert Heap b. 1766?, Cheshire England).

Since I have the direct line sorted out to that point I have taken to what we genealogist lovingly call “killing off the relatives”. Some of the siblings are not co-operating and in order to find their death dates I have to muck around in the records sometimes creating more questions for myself. One of those was Edward Heap b. about 1841 to Henry and Mary (Woolley) Heap. Henry had a brother Edward Lees Heap (b. 1809 d. 1845) and when Henry and Mary had their third baby boy christened on 11 April 1841 they named him Edward Lees Heap. Well, now Henry’s son Edward is in the 1841 census for Ashton Under Lyne and noted to be 6 months old. Also there is another Edward Heap 30 years old living in Henry’s household, unfortunately they do not list relationship in the 1841 UK Census, but the age is right for Edward Lees Heap, Henry’s brother. Since the census was to reflect the household on the night of  June 6th 1841  Edward (the younger) was born in either December 1840 or January 1841.

Henry and Mary had their children (Robert, John Woolley and Edward)  baptized at the parish church

Mottram Parish Church from Google Earth

Mottram-in-Logandendale, Cheshire England. In the Census of 1841 the family is shown as living at Rossbottom Street in the town of Staleybridge (Cheshire). When Mary (Woolley) Heap dies in 1843 she is shown as being at Rossbottom Street and when Henry marries Eliza Stokes in 1845 his address is listed as Staleybridge and they marry in Ashton Under Lyne. In the Census of 1851 the family is shown as living at 52 Rossbottom Street in the town of Staleybridge (Cheshire) but no Edward.


So the questions are:

  • where in 1851 is Edward or did he not  survive to his 10th birthday
  • where would I find the death record? Mottram-in- Logandale? Ashton-under Lyne?
  •  looking at the map of the area we can see that Staleybridge is between Mottram-in- Logandendale and Ashton-under Lyne.

Who are the Edward Heaps in the 1851 UK census

  • in Hartshead in the parish of Ashton-under Lyne there’s another Henry Heap family. His wife is listed as Elizabeth. The children in the family are shown as Robert(24 years of age), Ann (22), Edward (21), Martha (18), and Joseph (16). This Edward is too old and this Robert is 4 years older the our Robert would have been. This census does list the relationship of each individual to the head of household
  • in Lancashire there are are only two other Edward Heaps indexed in the 1851 UK census.
    • one in Higher Booths who is only 5
    • one in Cotton who is 11 which would be about the correct age but he is shown as born in Munst.
  • There are none in Cheshire and several in Yorkshire.

So I have sent an inquiry to the Parish church in Mottram-in-Logandendale for a possible burial that is not available on-line. Any other ideas? Would love your input.


3 thoughts on “#9 The Heap Family Line

  1. Hello Cousin,

    Happy Thanksgiving!!! I hope you and your loved ones have a safe holiday.

    Looking at some of your work here.

    Will talk about EDWARD LEES HEAP —b: 21 JAN 1809 and d: 26 FEB 1865


    from what I can gather up with records and such they had 6 known children

    1. JOHN HEAP — b: 1792 2. ARNOLD HEAP — b: APR 1795 — d: APR 1795 3. MARY HEAP —- b: 1798 4. HENRY HEAP — b: MAR 1801 — d: 27 APR 1882 —– Our HENRY HEAP (3rd great) born same day as my Mom 5. MARIA HEAP — b: AUG 1804 6. EDWARD LEES HEAP — b: 21 JAN 1809 — d: 26 FEB 1865 in FRENCHES, SADDLEWORTH, YORK CO., ENGLAND

    # 6 — EDWARD LEES HEAP — Baptism was 19 MARCH 1809 at St. Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire

    source: England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Birth Date: 21 Jan 1809 Father: Robert Heap Mother: Mally Lees

    FHL Film # 547822

    ***************************************************************** Marriage record:

    Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns 1754-1930


    Marr Date: 23 FEB 1843 — Parish: Oldham, St. Mary

    Spouse: ANN BUCKLEY Reference Number: GB127.L185/1/5/16

    ************************************************************* BURIAL RECORD:

    Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials 1813-1985


    Birth Year: Abt 1809 Age 56 Burial Dt:: 3 MAR 1865

    Parish: Saddleworth, St. Chad

    Ref # 09/1/4/6 Item # 5 Archive Roll: 910

    ****************************************************** From Will / Pobate Index:

    EDWARD LEES HEAP Probate Date: 7 JUNE 1865

    Death Date: 26 FEB 1865 Death Place: Yorkshire, Eng

    *************************************************************** EDWARD LEES HEAP married ANN BUCKLEY

    ANN BUCKLY b: 1816 — Saddleworth, Yorkshire d: 1894 — Oldham, Lancashire Co., England marr: 23 FEB 1843 — St Mary’s Oldham, Lancashire Co. Eng

    they had 7 known children:

    1. MARIA HEAP ——————- 1844- aft 1911 *** 2. SARAH ANN HEAP ——— 1845 – 1913 3. MARY LOUISA HEAP ——— 1847 – 1927 *** 4. ROBERT BUCKLEY HEAP — 1848 – 1866 5. ARNOLD HEAP —————- 1850 – 1852 6. HAROLD HEAP —————- 1853 – 1913 7. ELIZA HEAP ——————— 1856 – 1931 ***


    1. Thanks for the info. Do you have anything on Henry’s son Edward. Christened in April 1831? He’s who I trying to “kill off”. Hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving.

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